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Richard Y Chappell's avatar

I think you're saddling me with a lot of extra baggage here that I didn't sign up for! :-)

I agree that it's important to be able to say "No" to the constant barrage of requests and demands from others. (Many of those requests aren't even efficient uses of your time or resources: even a saint would turn them down! And we aren't required to be saints.) Once someone has met their obligations, they're free from blame and guilt. Aiming to get by doing the absolute minimum permissible is not "wrong". But it's also not superlative. It's just OK. Morally mediocre. Less than virtuous, for all that it avoids outright vice.

I'd like to encourage people to aim at least a bit higher than that. (It's a tricky question how much higher.) Just think: wouldn't it be nice to be outright *virtuous*? Better than morally mediocre? Nobody's perfect, of course, and I don't think that's cause for deep angst or guilt. Anything better than OK is positively morally *good*! Still, I think pretty much all of us could stand to do better than we typically do. A moral vision that recognizes and encourages this is *more accurate* than one that's fixated on the bare minimum for permissibility.

You seem to have a very narrow conception of "morality" -- as being "to do with blame, with justice, with obligations to others". I have little interest in anything so narrow. I'm more concerned with what you call "ethics", or others might call "practical normativity": how to live; what is overall worth doing, etc. My suggestion is that *helping others*, and trying to make the world a better place, is a central component of ethics, so understood. You could fail to do this without warranting blame. Not every practical error is so bad as to warrant blame, after all. But still, if you ask yourself the question, "How should I live?", you're making a kind of mistake if you settle on the answer, "Do the absolute minimum I can morally get away with to help others, and then just get on with the rest of my life."

So, to be clear: my view is that it's *ethically better* to do more than the minimum to help others. Do you really disagree with this?

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Tina Lee Forsee's avatar

"Living a good life means, among other things, not just making others happy but being happy oneself."

Yes! I think the split between morality as "doing right" and morality as "being good" is useful in certain contexts, maybe even necessary in legal ones, but I wouldn't want to lose sight of what grounds ethical behavior—what the entire point is—which I take to be desire in the broadest sense, the 'telos' of which is flourishing ('happiness' works for me too). Virtue ethics may be vague and short on details, but I think it nails it precisely by being so flexible and general. We don't get a set of rules for what flourishing means in every case, but there is the possibility of knowing our own flourishing, though it's not necessarily easy.

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